'That was a very thought-provoking shift we did for MOPP (Ministry of Place Production). Do you know Sal, we had in-depth conversations with lots of children and adults.'
'Yes, Sal, this man was looking at images of urban landscapes and called them compositions. But he couldn't tell me what it was all about.'
'Perhaps that is what landscapes are – compositions created by the activity of living things.'
'We were certainly able to create our own abstract landscapes from the residues left behind in Wirksworth. It's all evidence of human activity, the weather and seasonal growth.'
'These children helped us construct one.'
'And so did these.'
'Do you think that people realise that some landscapes are toxic?'
'Depends if they think about it.'
'So does a knowledge of art makes any difference?'
'Depends what you know Sal.'